I would agree, Schonbergian. The first rhythm is more majestic and thus fits its text well. The second rhythm less so and also appropriate to the text.
Bach examples that I am familiar with, like the Sinfonia to Partita no. 2 are clear cases of an abbreviated notation, however.
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- 16 Sep 2025, 13:17
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Rhythm in Handel's Messiah
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- 16 Sep 2025, 02:49
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Interesting Notation in Ravel’s Ondine
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Re: Interesting Notation in Ravel’s Ondine
Thanks, Wescott. Don't have the original manuscript, but the notation seems deliberate to me. The bass part matches the notation of the middle voice: dotted half note then half note. That makes a lot of mistakes in a piece that is actually quite accurately notated. I think that something else was af...
- 11 Sep 2025, 14:42
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Interesting Notation in Ravel’s Ondine
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Interesting Notation in Ravel’s Ondine
At the end of Ondine, Ravel writes (first edition):
Shouldn’t that be (Peters edition):
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Shouldn’t that be (Peters edition):
What do members think?
- 11 Sep 2025, 13:17
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
- Replies: 7
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Re: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
I would only use the upside down version on a staff with multiple voices; otherwise it's always above the staff. That's what I do too. But the original question was why we do this when it seems illogical. Our system has evolved over centuries and represents collective wisdom. There are usually very...
- 10 Sep 2025, 11:51
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 840
Re: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
Perhaps it goes back to the days of hand copying when it was much harder to distinguish between the two symbols. In an orchestral setting, questions and confusion are shunned at all costs. As I mentioned, Dorico does give the option of a more natural placement of the marcato. Maybe this should be li...
- 09 Sep 2025, 17:36
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 840
Re: Marcato (rooftop) accent always above?
The marcato accent may be placed above or below the notes. Certain things would be impossible to notate if this were not true; for example, in a piano piece, placing a marcato on a low bass note played simultaneously with a second voice above it in the lower staff. Dorico has an option called "...
- 09 Sep 2025, 12:24
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Accents in the staff
- Replies: 3
- Views: 525
Re: Accents in the staff
Perhaps this thread should be consolidated with the other one.
- 09 Sep 2025, 12:07
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Accents in the staff
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- Views: 706
Re: Accents in the staff
I don't agree that G. Schirmer editions are badly engraved. Their beautiful plate-engraved late 19th and early 20th century editions continue to be used today by many musicians. And the later editions of American classics by Barber, Bernstein, Corigliano etc. are models of editorial excellence and s...
- 08 Sep 2025, 02:11
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Accents in the staff
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- Views: 525
Re: Accents in the staff
I prefer the accents close to the noteheads and on the staff when necessary. I place the wedges a fourth away from the noteheads, so they would be bisecting lines or in the spaces in some cases.
- 06 Sep 2025, 21:23
- Forum: Problems and Solutions (Help)
- Topic: Recommended settings for slurs and ties
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- Views: 888
Re: Recommended settings for slurs and ties
FredGUnn posted some good ones on the Dorico Forum, and I believe also here. benwiggy and others have also posted some settings here. They may be somewhere in the following:
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