NOTATIO

Perhaps the lines in the previous post would look better, or cleaner, without hooks. And possibly less piano-centered. I might actually have seen something similar to this before, but, if so, it has completely slipped my mind where.

It seems that no one has yet taken up the challenge to create a new tenuto marking (not on this thread at least). Here's a first, brave attempt, in analogy with pedal markings on the piano: tenuto.jpg The difficult thing would be to have any new symbol generally accepted. Well, this is one try. Plea...

John Ruggero wrote: ↑

28 Sep 2018, 22:56

Almost anything seems to be acceptable, as long as it is easily distinguishable from an eighth rest. The reverse eighth rest as a quarter rest was thus doomed from the start.

Just out of curiosity, how come that this strange reverse rest was ever used?

My opinion FWIW is that the avoidable unfamiliar is more likely to lead to errors than the familiar, hence my preference for ‘normal’ hyphenation in English. In English the lack of inflection and the way multiple roots affect spelling might be quite confusing if split oddly. Fischer-Dieskau was usu...

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Thanks, John, for your extensive analysis! I have some objections, though. Maybe the beginning of the slur in your first example is not that important, but I think that the careful continuation is (as you pointed out yourself). I know this is a forum for notation mainly, but surely notation has many...

I'll go along with John there. Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau, the master of rendering an expressive, meaningful text in singing, said that a sounding consonant before a vowel should be intonated at the pitch of the vowel, even if it precedes the new harmony (!). The (sounding) consonant becomes a sort of...

I apologize for joining the thread so late, but it's a very interesting one. I would just like to show one example of what the Polish PWM did at the end of the 'modernist era' in 1982, one page from Ligeti's Grave : Metamorphoses for Violoncello and String Orchestra. Ligeti Grave.jpg This is by no m...

John, I fail to see why the stem directions in your examples are that important. As Schonbergian pointed out, Beethoven may have made a point of telling beforehand what is accompaniment and what is not. But Chopin? The stem directions are what they normally would be with only the accompaniment prese...

Just a thought: Especially the right-hand slurs of the MS (copy?) are very suggestive in that they seem to begin, not on the first eighth, but on the the first rest, or even before that - and in that they do not end conveniently at the expected 'phrase joints'. To me it suggests that Chopin intended...