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- 05 Mar 2024, 21:45
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
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Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Thanks for confirming that, David and Neera. Yes, since a repeat mark can be placed in the middle of a measure, it is clearly not a bar line per se. Neera, your point is also very interesting. When a repeat mark coincides with a double bar line, the double bar line may have an extra meaning that cou...
- 05 Mar 2024, 18:50
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2257
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
No problem. (Do people still say that?) Neera, have you ever seen the Gould-Dorico style (as described above) in fine editions? I would love to know where this came from. In thinking about it further I am wondering if it comes from a misunderstanding of the point I made above. A repeat mark replaces...
- 05 Mar 2024, 17:08
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Another Beethoven centered beam
- Replies: 22
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Another Beethoven centered beam
This one comes from the first movement of the Sonata op. 28: Beethoven op 28.1 MS.png In this case, Beethoven uses the centered beam to preserve normal stem direction for the three notes involved. But not to obey "the rules". He does it because he wants the stem direction to stay the same ...
- 05 Mar 2024, 16:57
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2257
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
That may be, Neera, but the subject of the thread is putting a clef change after a double repeat that occurs in the middle of a staff.
- 05 Mar 2024, 03:44
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2257
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Hi, FredGUnn. We meet again. :) Yes, I just gave several examples in the posts above of mid-measure double repeat signs and how the clef falls after the repeat mark. Imagine how bad those would look if the Gould-Dorico system were applied. The way I understand it is: A repeat mark substitutes for a ...
- 04 Mar 2024, 23:32
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2208
Re: Placement of tuplets
Yes, the single-note in the measure issue. Thanks for bringing that one up. Then there is the bad position of the stem-side two-note slur. If I had a dollar for each one of those... I agree completely that tuplet brackets are necessary in complex contemporary music. However, I also think that they a...
- 04 Mar 2024, 22:29
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2257
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Thanks, Shinohara Hoshi. This just came up again over at the Dorico forum, so I thought I should post here because I don't think that it's been discussed here. I am interested in knowing whether Gould based this rule on a tradition that I've never encountered. But it is clear that software should be...
- 04 Mar 2024, 19:10
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2208
Re: Placement of tuplets
Here is an example of how music customs do not always improve. The first example is from the first movement of the first edition of Beethoven's Sonata op. 31 no. 1. One sees he dramatic peaks and valleys of the music as if it were mountain range: Beethoven op 31 no 1 Naegeli .png This wonderful pict...
- 04 Mar 2024, 18:37
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Placement of tuplets
- Replies: 12
- Views: 2208
Re: Placement of tuplets
I agree that music notation "customs" change with time, Shinohara Hoshi. Sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse. The great power of personal computers makes it possible for knowledgable individuals to pick and choose what they think are the best solutions from the past and p...
- 04 Mar 2024, 17:05
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
- Replies: 16
- Views: 2257
Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
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