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by John Ruggero
26 Oct 2016, 15:07
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

Should the two hands be really synchronized? The chromaticism suggests that the timing doesn’t much matter, and the original beaming that the gesture should have some swoop. I think the hands should be synchronized and have never heard it played otherwise. But I agree with the swoop. It's in the Gy...
by John Ruggero
26 Oct 2016, 11:25
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico et al.?
Replies: 44
Views: 47096

Re: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico et al.?

Keep in mind that Finale, Sibelius and MuseScore don't justify that uneven 16-notes even without the third voice in 8-notes. For me it doesn't look good. The fact that there are no accidentals involved in the example makes the unevenness stand out even more. Accidentals can distract and could be fu...
by John Ruggero
26 Oct 2016, 02:56
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico et al.?
Replies: 44
Views: 47096

Re: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico?

Knut: Thing is, this has more to do with the font (i.e., the angle of the noteheads) than anything else. This points up an interesting issue about seconds with fonts that have slightish note heads like Bravura and Maestro: they often need their stems aligned. Here are aligned stems (and even slightl...
by John Ruggero
25 Oct 2016, 17:32
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico et al.?
Replies: 44
Views: 47096

Re: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico?

As a side note, you might get away with the best of both worlds with a little bit of fudge-factor by shifting the second 16th slightly right and the fourth 16th slightly left to even out those 16th runs: Fudge-factoring was an important part of the plate engravers arsenal because of some built-in i...
by John Ruggero
25 Oct 2016, 17:14
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

In the case of this guitar excerpt, I notice it is certainly harder for me to read the 32nd-note run at sight without the beam break. In your Bach excerpt mm. 3 and 18 are easy because they’re completely scalar; m. 20 is harder to parse at first, but then it’s a sequence, so the pattern gets ingrai...
by John Ruggero
25 Oct 2016, 14:41
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico et al.?
Replies: 44
Views: 47096

Re: Note spacing - voice collision in Dorico?

I agree with MJCube. Finale's spacing of the seconds with the stems aligning, seems standard to me. Dorico's handling of the general spacing is also standard. I don't understand why Dorico would have its default for seconds set so wide because it exaggerates the unevenness of the 1/8th notes, when i...
by John Ruggero
25 Oct 2016, 02:20
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

Those are global settings, and while I'm certain that there are some situations where adjustments are needed, I think the right values here should take care of the vast majority of cases. I am sure that you are right; but unfortunately it's the non-confoming situations that would be the show-stoppe...
by John Ruggero
24 Oct 2016, 22:35
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

Sorry, John. I missed that because of your positive first reaction. Anyway, Dorico does indeed provide settings for this as well as a couple related cases: I reacted so favorably because Dorico gives remarkably good default output. Then I noticed that small adjustments were still needed, but assume...
by John Ruggero
24 Oct 2016, 21:11
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

O Luckily, there's no need to find that out, since it does most of them automatically, or with settings specified before entering the piece. The only two exceptions are the beams in the upper voice and the augmentation dot (both 2 steps). Personally, I would never have offset the dot (but would have...
by John Ruggero
24 Oct 2016, 13:24
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Beaming conventions
Replies: 29
Views: 28449

Re: Beaming conventions

Here are the 6 edits in the Finale version. Each edit is one action only and took only seconds to accomplish with my trusty mouse. If I were using Dorico, it would have taken 7 edits, 4 to adjust the middle voice notes, 1 to adjust the dot on the lower voice, 1 to restore the secondary beam break, a...