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by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 17:05
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 654

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

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by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 17:02
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 654

Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

On page 234 of Gould's Behind Bars , we encounter the following rule: Gould rule.png Application of this rule leads to the following result as shown in an example I engraved in Dorico. The clef change is placed outside of the repeat mark! This is the only way Dorico can handle this situation automat...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 15:39
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 545

Re: Placement of tuplets

You are very welcome, Anders. I still wonder why it has become such a hard rule - at least in some quarters. Hard and fast rules do make things "easier." Many aspects of music notation were nuanced in earlier times. I see a lot of sensitivity to musical values being expressed in earlier no...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 14:29
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 545

Re: Placement of tuplets

I am very glad you brought up this topic, Anders. In the 18th and 19th centuries tuplet numbers were placed (whenever possible) on the note head side . Slurs and articulations as well. Reason: they are more visible there since our visual attention is aimed at the note heads, rather than the stems an...
by John Ruggero
03 Mar 2024, 02:57
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Alignment of lyric hyphens
Replies: 4
Views: 225

Re: Alignment of lyric hyphens

I do think that it looks odd and should be corrected. I've had similar situations with simultaneous continuation dashed lines for dynamics and tempo indications and was only able to correct them in Finale by using two dashed Smart Lines with the proper distance between the dashes.
by John Ruggero
02 Mar 2024, 03:10
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Italic/oblique flat and sharp glyphs?
Replies: 4
Views: 272

Re: Italic/oblique flat and sharp glyphs?

I vote Quirky. For me, the sharp, flat and natural symbols lose their essential character if not upright. But then I don't like treble clefs that lean forward either...
by John Ruggero
14 Feb 2024, 12:20
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Fermata question
Replies: 6
Views: 758

Re: Fermata question

Looks good to me. And Arnstein probably would have put the col canto vocal part in the other parts as a cue.
by John Ruggero
13 Feb 2024, 20:53
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Fermata question
Replies: 6
Views: 758

Re: Fermata question

Two quarter rests seems clearer to me. I'm pretty sure Arnstein would have done it that way since he wanted exact correspondence of fermatas between all the parts including within cues.
by John Ruggero
05 Feb 2024, 13:35
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Another Mozart Centered Beam
Replies: 16
Views: 2188

Re: Another Mozart Centered Beam

I get your point about the Mozart example though. I guess this is not a generally understood and accepted device, but something that lives on a more personal individual plane? I think that the centered beam, like so many aspects of music notation, is capable of many different meanings. While genera...
by John Ruggero
05 Feb 2024, 13:23
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Another Mozart Centered Beam
Replies: 16
Views: 2188

Re: Another Mozart Centered Beam

Yes, the early version in the WF Bach Notebook shows a completely different and what seems to me to be a somewhat disorganized usage. The subject in the bass in measure 1 has inconsistent stem direction and the subject in measure 2 is set off with a centered beam that results both in inconsistent an...