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by John Ruggero
16 Oct 2015, 17:48
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"
Replies: 16
Views: 21650

Re: Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"

Fred, I am glad that we agree on this issue, and Arnstein agrees with you about the beaming of the 16ths. (I will in the near future give Arnstein's views on beaming.) I didn't break the secondary beams in the Arnstein manner, because I didn't want to steer the conversation to the beaming issue, sin...
by John Ruggero
16 Oct 2015, 02:04
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"
Replies: 16
Views: 21650

Re: Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"

As I said, I think this one transcends pen and ink. I am a very good sight reader, yet I would certainly prefer the Arnstein versions in the following examples: Whole Measure Rest.jpg The traditional notation is perfectly legible, but the Arnstein is more "user friendly" and helpful to the...
by John Ruggero
15 Oct 2015, 22:32
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"
Replies: 16
Views: 21650

Arnstein and the "whole measure rest"

One of Arnstein's most interesting ideas was the "whole measure rest". For him, there was no such animal as the whole-rest, corresponding to the whole note. What everyone else called the "whole rest", he called the "whole measure rest". The "whole measure rest"...
by John Ruggero
15 Oct 2015, 22:00
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90572

Re: 12/8 Question

I don't think players have too much trouble distinguishing a dotted rest from an undotted rest any more an they do a dotted note from an undotted one. If there is consistency in the use of rests, it will be clear that all whole beat rests will be a dotted rest, or not, depending which system is cho...
by John Ruggero
15 Oct 2015, 15:29
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90572

Re: 12/8 Question

In regard to Fred G. Unn's post above, I corrected my post to read "the first measure of X1."
by John Ruggero
15 Oct 2015, 14:36
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90572

Re: 12/8 Question

Peter, if (edit-the first measure of) X1 is now the preferred method, I think it unfortunate and a retrogression that it has nothing to do with the demise of hand copying. I wonder if Boosey now uses see half rests in 3/4 and 6/4? The point of both the "Brahms" and Arnstein systems was to ...
by John Ruggero
14 Oct 2015, 21:17
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: 12/8 Question
Replies: 60
Views: 90572

Re: 12/8 Question

Peter, as you know, the quarter rest to the front and not to the rear is the traditional one seen at "Brahms" in the example. The logic is clear: the more natural rhythm is quarter-eighth, not the syncopated eighth-quarter: see Y1 and Y2. The quarter rest is thus always placed on a downbea...
by John Ruggero
14 Oct 2015, 19:45
Forum: Engraving Commentaries
Topic: Dense page
Replies: 9
Views: 13834

Re: Dense page

This one amazing page of music inspires a number of comments: 1. Apropos of another thread, the treble clefs are to me very graceful and generally upright. One sees that, being hand engraving, they are tilted at slightly different angles, as mentioned by Knut. The clefs for the cues are in a somewha...
by John Ruggero
14 Oct 2015, 19:08
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Notational curiosity?
Replies: 28
Views: 35445

Re: Notational curiosity?

I was forced to use an imported graphic for this one, unfortunately. What do you think? Are the fermatas too far from the notes? I am on uncertain ground with this "new" symbol.
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by John Ruggero
14 Oct 2015, 17:40
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Notational curiosity?
Replies: 28
Views: 35445

Re: Notational curiosity?

Knut, I never noticed this when the pattern was smaller, but at very high magnification, one can see that the arc is made up of series of smaller arcs, which gives a grey impression when stretched because there is now white between the arcs. It doesn't improve in printing, so it looks like I am goin...