Single note of 5/4

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OCTO
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Single note of 5/4

Post by OCTO » 03 Oct 2017, 20:34

Here is a solution by Rautavaara.
5/4 is indeed one of the most confusing meters to notate, and with missing the single-note of the full measure makes that meter really "painful".
Yet, this solution is somewhat original and not disturbing.
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Re: Single note of 5/4

Post by RMK » 04 Oct 2017, 12:11

I don't agree. Looks too much like a misplaced double-sharp.

I think a better solution is the rhythm dot on both sides of the note (the dot to the left signifying half the value of the dot on the right), although that could be confusing in certain polyphonic situations.

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Re: Single note of 5/4

Post by Schonbergian » 04 Oct 2017, 12:46

I would still prefer the dotted half tied to the half. This is far too confusing at first glance.

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Re: Single note of 5/4

Post by John Ruggero » 04 Oct 2017, 13:35

I understand your distaste for tied notes to represent such a simple thing in 5/4, OCTO. It is too bad that the dot after a note has become so precise in its meaning and is no longer dependent on context as it was in the Baroque. Otherwise a dot could be used since there is no other possible meaning for a dotted whole note in 5/4. If some other symbol were used, I would prefer little unfilled circles to the crosses.
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Re: Single note of 5/4

Post by OCTO » 06 Oct 2017, 20:35

RMK and Schonbergian, I must admit that after a longer look, I agree that the idea is "somewhat original" but "a bit disturbing".

I had an excessive discussion at another forum a long time ago, with a person who wished to introduce a new notehead for the 5/4-whole note. The person had a huge mental capacity and good knowledge and interest in notation, but what is strikingly important he didn't have experience in music performance, which is crucial in innovating new stuff.

Rautavaara here, being a sufficient performer, only adds some "piccante" spices into his last notes...
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