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Re: Flat slurs

Posted: 12 Sep 2020, 19:57
by OCTO
Den wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 17:11
John Ruggero wrote:
04 Nov 2015, 23:16
Peter and OCTO, I think that you are absolutely right. An independent middle point would allow flattening and be a big advance.

I still feel that the user should have the option of placing control points where needed so that any possible slur could be drawn:

Ravel Tombeau.jpg
yes , S-slurs in Igor
without much tweaking...only raw add all nested slurs, move and connect to each other, nothing special editing...about 15-20min.
ready for eps export to other dtp program
S-line slurs-Igor Engraver.jpg
I think that John pointed that this should be done with one slur only.
Using several linked slurs is not interesting here, consequently nothing particular is different in Igor either.

Re: Flat slurs

Posted: 13 Sep 2020, 01:33
by Den
OCTO wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 19:57
I think that John pointed that this should be done with one slur only.
Using several linked slurs is not interesting here, consequently nothing particular is different in Igor either.
O.K. My bad mistake. I apologize!
Any way...Slurs and lines in Dorico is ok, have many possibilities, Dorico have multi point slurs, but ...
Slurs in Dorico have many wrong separate confuse logic. Not stay fixed on primary position (your!) and when you move notes after your job finished also slurs is moving on new position... wrong position (not where you put slurs and fixed). Also, in this case, when you move notes with Alt and left or right arrow , that change everything in measure (your original fixed notes is lost-completly!). Yes, you have back with Undo but...logic is confusing and loose your time every time when edit something like this and many other functions. What is all this worth so many scattered functions when it could all be more easily presented, ie. programming? Especially with lines or slurs ..
When you do anything in Dorico you have the feeling that everything is somehow fixed programming and does not allow you to have free editing and stay as you originally set anything. I can't even move the rest where I want, but where Dorico fits. But OK. Maybe it will work out by version 7...maybe.
More functions does not mean better, but more optimized and simplified functions mean simpler and better. When you move slurs in Write mode, that is very slow. When you go in Engrave slurs edit is faster and smoother. Why is this separate modes, why is not in only ONE mode on ONE page??? That is bad idea to separate all modes and separate all functions to many places in program. Go to Write and click to Engrave, and go to Write, and go to Engrave...and go to Write, click to Engrave, etc.etc. all time :( Wonderful! And so we can click all day and everything could be much simpler, even with slurs. Fortunately, many have Illustrator or similar external tools for right corrections :-)