Slurs over systems

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John Ruggero
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Re: Slurs over systems

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Ben, Dorico seems to do a fine job with slurs over systems and produces pleasing shapes in most of the cases I tried, However, in one case, it fails: high or low ledger lines with the slur positioned outside the staff. Very strange because this case is so easily handled with a normal completely horizontal slur. I couldn't find any way to control the shape of slurs over systems in the engraving options.
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Re: Slurs over systems

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Oops. I guess I need a little of that back, Ben. I am encountering many more situations in Dorico that need adjustment. I can see why you posted about this. Maybe I need to change a setting for slur shape in general.
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Re: Slurs over systems

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benwiggy wrote:
14 Oct 2019, 15:14
If the computer can do it for me, then I see no reason to do it by hand!
(I am suspicious that there will be one setting (with variables) that covers all situations. Manual editing is a kind of art, anyway, always needed.)
Sorry for my interruption in the flow.
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Re: Slurs over systems

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There was a post somewhere on this forum when Dorico first came out of suggestions for improved slur values in the Options. I remember taking note of it, and they are now in my defaults.

There will undoubtedly be some manual intervention needed, but minimizing it is certainly a good thing.

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