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Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 16 Apr 2016, 20:34
by John Ruggero
At the risk of overselling op 119 no 1, I would like to point out that it is one that appeals to a very wide range of listeners because it sounds Impressionistic to some, Expressionistic to others, and simply common-practice to the rest.

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 10:34
by Knut
John Ruggero wrote:At the risk of overselling op 119 no 1, I would like to point out that it is one that appeals to a very wide range of listeners because it sounds Impressionistic to some, Expressionistic to others, and simply common-practice to the rest.
Yes, it has a certain impressionistic feel, and some interesting harmony.

Here's a sneak peek of the first three systems with my own settings and 'style sheet'. It's certainly a lot of work to get it right!
Intermezzo.jpg

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 16:35
by John Ruggero
I like what I see, Knut! Your engraving makes a good case for this as our example piece.

In any case, does anyone have more suggestions for such a piece? And how should a final decision be reached, if at all?

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:28
by jrethorst
In addition to IMSLP, good site though it is, here's another collection of scores:

http://socrates.acadiau.ca/courses/musi ... scores.htm

John R.

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 19:34
by jrethorst
Knut, that's nicely done. Sorry to ask a question everyone else may know the answer to, but what program and font did you use?

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 20:08
by Knut
jrethorst wrote:Knut, that's nicely done. Sorry to ask a question everyone else may know the answer to, but what program and font did you use?
Thank you! I used Finale and my own music font.

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 22:29
by John Ruggero

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 17 Apr 2016, 22:57
by John Ruggero
After working for few minutes with the Chopin site I mentioned, the Online Chopin Variorum Edition, I am stunned. (Please forgive the superlatives that follow.)

This site is unbelievable. Not only is there an incredible wealth of sources (there are about 30 for the preludes alone) but if one selects and clicks any measure in any source, that one measure will be displayed in one window from every source so that one can compare them. GIven the number of divergencies in Chopin's works, this is been long needed. What a resource for performers, researchers, and engravers! If only there were such a site for all composers.

I had used this site several years ago, when they had just started with a few pieces, but had no idea that they had successfully implemented this project for Chopin' complete works.

http://www.chopinonline.ac.uk/ocve/

Select View OCVE, Select a Work and have fun!

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 00:57
by jrethorst
John Ruggero wrote:if one selects and clicks any measure in any source, that one measure will be displayed in one window from every source so that one can compare them.
That's amazing.

Re: Notation Programs' Output Comparison

Posted: 18 Apr 2016, 04:56
by OCTO
Knut, beautifully done! I enjoy very much your example.
One small thing to consider: ties in your example should be more flatten, IMO.