Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by jan » 06 Sep 2019, 06:59

A comparison of Wess' font (VintageGHMA) and tisimst's Beethoven style (in the Finale form BetvnFIN) can also be found in the music font comparison:
Haydn Example: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comp ... 2=BetvnFIN
Liszt Example: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comp ... 2=BetvnFIN
Berg Example: https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comp ... 2=BetvnFIN
(Just click on the score to change from VintageGHMA to BetvnFIN)

Interesting to see how these great fonts look less impressive on a white screen compared to the old paper.
Maybe I should add a more old paper colored look to the music font comparison? Or change the white to a light yellowish color?

BTW, here is also a short video-tutorial on how to achieve a vintage score look with Finale + Photoshop.
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by odod » 08 Sep 2019, 01:05

while this is an attempt of mimicking Schott edition
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by tisimst » 08 Sep 2019, 01:19

Nice work, odod! That looks really great! The one thing that sticks out a little are some of the fingering that feel unnecessarily far away from their notes. Other than that, great job!
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by odod » 08 Sep 2019, 04:13

tisimst wrote:
08 Sep 2019, 01:19
Nice work, odod! That looks really great! The one thing that sticks out a little are some of the fingering that feel unnecessarily far away from their notes. Other than that, great job!
Thank you tisimst .. that is why i hate jobs with fingerings :( lol
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by OCTO » 09 Sep 2019, 13:01

I believe that fingering can be placed on the staff without erasing the background.
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by John Ruggero » 09 Sep 2019, 15:12

OCTO wrote:
09 Sep 2019, 13:01
I believe that fingering can be placed on the staff without erasing the background.
Correct. And it is best to place them so the staff line intersects the number at its middle point, or the number is entirely within a space. Otherwise they look very sloppy.

The idea is to place a fingering indication as close to the note head (or stem or beam) as possible, given other considerations. So fingering indications are placed under the slurs, except the one at the beginning of the slur and the one at the end, which are generally (there are exceptions) over the slur but as close as possible to the note head without interfering with the slur. The should not be placed between an articulation marking and a note head, however. (edit. Yet I just placed finger number between an sf and a note stem. So it's complicated.)

There is an art to placing fingering, and I don't think that the principles, as seen in the work of the best plate engravers, have ever been completely explained. I have thought of doing that, since I do so much complex fingering for my editions. Something for the future.
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by odod » 10 Sep 2019, 01:48

OCTO wrote:
09 Sep 2019, 13:01
I believe that fingering can be placed on the staff without erasing the background.
indeed, that score was before some editing done by me regarding the fingering. thanks for pointing out OCTO
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Re: Fantastic old scores' simulation + fonts

Post by John Ruggero » 11 Sep 2019, 12:38

jan, I hadn't visited your website in a while. Love the new look. Can't wait for the Mac version of Perfect Layout!
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