Fonts for Lyrics

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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by OCTO » 15 Nov 2016, 13:04

benwiggy wrote:One other thing to remember is that Finale reduces the lyric size along with the staff reduction. A 16pt lyric on a 75% staff size will appear as 12pt, unless you set a Fixed size for your font. And of course some fonts appear smaller than others at the same point size.
Good to know.
benwiggy wrote:Bulmer MT Display: This is the one I have chosen for my house style. It's a very crisp, modern face, and the Display style has a nice metric that avoids displacing notes.
Yes, I have noticed that, very beautiful font indeed.

Here is my edit of FreeSerif - emboldened by 16 and narrowed to 88%. It is more narrow and somehow visible. Your tests are welcome.
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by benwiggy » 24 Nov 2016, 12:40

Here's a chart comparing different fonts for use as lyrics. It's possible that this says something about Finale's spacing, too.
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by odod » 08 Dec 2016, 04:06

Free Serif.png
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Comparation between Bulmer and Freeserif
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by OCTO » 08 Dec 2016, 04:38

odod wrote:Free Serif.pngBulmer.png


Comparation between Bulmer and Freeserif
Thanks. You mean Free Serif Narrow SB, which I have provided?
At my screen FSNSM is clearly more visible even from the longer distance, and at the same time takes less space. What are your opinions?
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by odod » 08 Dec 2016, 05:03

yes, your font sir .. indeed very crisp and clear .. i love this one .. beautiful
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by John Ruggero » 08 Dec 2016, 11:42

Interesting. I like all the fonts mentioned EXCEPT Bulmer. It is too thin, compressed and hard to read.
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by MJCube » 10 Dec 2016, 18:27

To my eye all of the lyrics in both of the latest samples are much smaller than necessary. With the notes spaced so very wide, the lyrics could be at least 25% larger, and then they’d be more comparable to the size of the notes for legibility. Don’t forget that singers often must focus on the words even more than the notes.

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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by odod » 11 Dec 2016, 01:12

MJCube wrote:To my eye all of the lyrics in both of the latest samples are much smaller than necessary. With the notes spaced so very wide, the lyrics could be at least 25% larger, and then they’d be more comparable to the size of the notes for legibility. Don’t forget that singers often must focus on the words even more than the notes.
what i did is to test the font with the smallest size, to make sure its visibility .. and Freeseriff just did it compared to bulmer
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Re: Fonts for Lyrics

Post by benwiggy » 28 Dec 2016, 11:50

After vacillating once more, I've come to agree that Bulmer can be a little unclear at small sizes, (though I tend to use it large enough). I've not found anything to beat the legibility of Minion (Condensed Caption is now the preferred face). I think OUP use it?
However, it doesn't quite suit the style of the other fonts on the page. I use Bodoni for titling and Monotype Modern for expressions.

I "designed" a version of Bodoni Book -- condensing it by 85% and boldening it by only about 5ems. Also I increased the X-height a bit. It looks quite good, but still not quite as legible as Minion. I called it "Bodoni Light", so I can use it in Dorico.

ITC Century Book Condensed is still a favourite for very tight scores, but it's a little too squished. Can't believe after looking through the entire Monotype library, I can't find a font that fits!

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