Feature Request Forum at MM

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John Ruggero
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Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by John Ruggero » 27 Jan 2017, 21:04

At the moment, there is encouraging interaction between users and MakeMusic at their Feature Request Forum.

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... t_activity

Robert Patterson has submitted several posts there, for example. It might be a good time for Finale Notat.io members to submit their requests.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by David Ward » 27 Jan 2017, 22:19

Yes, I've had a quick look and it is indeed as you say. I particularly like the MM response to the suggestion for unlinking page number off-set, as this has long been something which has annoyed me.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by OCTO » 28 Jan 2017, 02:40

...I have a very long list what should be improved; I posted many for several years in several topics around the old forum. However, I think that the problem is twofold: MM doesn't listen carefully, and prioritizes side things. Also their leaders changed several times over the time, of course it affects focus of the product.
The other thing is that Finale is built of a very large and complex code, many lines dating from 1980, it is virtually impossible to add things endlessly without breaking the core. Spacing issues, as kerning, is a very clear example, otherwise it would be solved sooner. They need to re-code it again to clean it up, but the question is if it will ever happen.

I am afraid that this Zendesk is a facebook-like posting, our wishes might disappear in endless flow of wishes. Also, the green button "answered" is not "accepted" nor "impelemented".

I might be also wrong, I hope so.

Personally, I lost interest in Finale at this last project. It takes to much time to clean up the score. There are to many workarounds.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by John Ruggero » 28 Jan 2017, 20:02

OCTO. I am sorry about your previous bad experience and present disillusionment with Finale. Finale is working well for me because of the help received here and the MM forum, and I am going to operate under the assumption that MM is interested in user input until proven wrong. After all, what is the alternative?
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by OCTO » 29 Jan 2017, 01:52

I think everything depends on who uses what for what purpose.
Today, I added one extra staff in a very large score. That messed up grouping of other staves, and removed manually adjusted dynamics for several instruments. And who knows what more. My copyist and me are just discovering bad things after one added stave. We have version controll and compare the files at different timestamps and I can confirm that this bad thing occured without our permission.

Finale does things without user's knowledge, and that is the biggest problem.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by John Ruggero » 29 Jan 2017, 13:02

I can well understand serious problems with complex scores, since one runs into problems even with simple ones. In any case, I have resolved to report my problems to MM as they occur and reinforce comments from others about their issues. If everyone would do this, it might have an effect.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by odod » 30 Jan 2017, 01:53

i would like to have zoom while playing the score like Sibelius .. and a bigger symbol creator window
will go there and try to write down the requests
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by John Ruggero » 30 Jan 2017, 12:35

Those are great requests, odod. I have often wished for a zoomable Text Expression Designer window!
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by David Ward » 30 Jan 2017, 17:23

John Ruggero wrote:
30 Jan 2017, 12:35
… … I have often wished for a zoomable Text Expression Designer window!
Ditto.
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Re: Feature Request Forum at MM

Post by John Ruggero » 30 Jan 2017, 23:04

Thanks for your support of the idea of more activity on the MM request forum, David!
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