Engraving in MuseScore

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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 15 Nov 2018, 14:14

John Ruggero wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 17:30
That's really nice, Pierre. And so is the font.
I think only the clef is different from MuseScore (Emmentaler).
Schneider wrote:
15 Nov 2018, 11:27
Octo, I think your work with MuseScore is great. I'd never thought that the output would be so nice. It's a nice surprise.
Congrats.
Could you show us a partial screen shot as per page 1?
Thank you.
I am on the bottom of the page 2, I am trying to find the best solution for this:
screenshot.2018-11-15 (1).jpg
Trying to add glissando lines makes the score very "unstable", since MuseScore adds automatically extra space for the glissando lines.
Using a normal line, what we have in Finale, is also awkward, since it adds a very large line above the stave, so I need to resize each of them. Any change to the measure length misplaces the lines. I will try to find a solution by using a large zig-zag line.

Here is the document (PDF attached below). Since the music is not published yet, I make reservation for the public. For anyone interested in opening it, I will send the password.
If you want to test any of the tricks from the music, please do not post the whole page, just segments. Thank you.
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 16 Nov 2018, 18:03

I have finally managed to do this in combination with MuseScore+Inkscape:
screenshot.2018-11-16.jpg
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by Schneider » 17 Nov 2018, 10:54

Hi Octo,
Great job, very nice output.
Personnaly I would keep the same distance between none headed stems, including the last 16th:

Octo-Mozartiana.png

Plus, at time 3/4 first beats, the beam slope looks a little strange.
Is it done on purpose? Muscore default settings?
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 17 Nov 2018, 11:16

Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 10:54
Hi Octo,
Great job, very nice output.
Personnaly I would keep the same distance between none headed stems, including the last 16th:


Octo-Mozartiana.png


Is it done on purpose?
Hi.
Thanks. Yes, I have done it by purpose but your example looks good to me, I will actually use that!
How have you made this zig-zag glissandos?
In Inkscape it is quite easy.
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by Schneider » 17 Nov 2018, 11:43

Sorry Octo, I've edit my post...
(see: [...] Plus, at time 3/4 first beats, the beam slope looks a little strange. [...] Muscore default settings? [...])
Anyway, in my coding the zig-zags are simple glissandi with special settings (thickness, minimum length, left and right padding, added arrow)

PS. [OT] I'm no violonist; may I ask you the meaning of "P" and "PE"?
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by John Ruggero » 18 Nov 2018, 04:16

OCTO wrote:
15 Nov 2018, 14:14
Using a normal line, what we have in Finale, is also awkward, since it adds a very large line above the stave, so I need to resize each of them. Any change to the measure length misplaces the lines. I will try to find a solution by using a large zig-zag line.
OCTO, I was able to draw this using the line tool in Finale without "very large lines above the staff." Of course if you change the measure width, you will have to adjust the lines, which is annoying. Does the zig-zag that you created in Inkscape automatically adjust to changes to the measure length in MuseScore?
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 18 Nov 2018, 07:51

Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 13:55
Two things I've noticed:
- page 1, 5th system, 2nd voice, mes.6, last D, the dot is missing;
Interesting, the dot is hidden behind the notehead. I am unable to select it... I will see what can be done.
screenshot.2018-11-18.jpg
EDIT: I have fixed it. A nice thing in Musescore: you select a note and than there are additional options what else ONLY you want to select:
screenshot.2018-11-18 (1).jpg
With selected "Dot" I could edit its many values, unfortunately not "size":
screenshot.2018-11-18 (2).jpg
Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 13:55
- the page number (page "2" ) is on the wrong side. ;)
Cheers,
Pierre
Yes, the layout I will do the last. Perhaps even not in MuseScore.
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John Ruggero wrote:
18 Nov 2018, 04:16
OCTO, I was able to draw this using the line tool in Finale without "very large lines above the staff." Of course if you change the measure width, you will have to adjust the lines, which is annoying. Does the zig-zag that you created in Inkscape automatically adjust to changes to the measure length in MuseScore?
The lines I have created in Inkscape are just pure vector lines with some width. After doing that, it is impossible to go back to MuseScore for further editing, since Inkscape is a vector graphic editor, and I edit PDF file.
Yes, if the measure width is changed all lines are misplaced again.
"very large lines above the staff" are the way how MuseScore creates a line.
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Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 11:43
(see: [...] Plus, at time 3/4 first beats, the beam slope looks a little strange. [...] Muscore default settings? [...])
Yes, I have edited the slope. In Musescore it is very far away. Perhaps I can work more to edit it to look better, but there is no a strict rule except some cases. Do you think it should be "flat"? For my taste it should not.
This is MS default:
screenshot.2018-11-18 (4).jpg
and this how I would like to have:
screenshot.2018-11-18 (5).jpg
Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 11:43
Anyway, in my coding the zig-zags are simple glissandi with special settings (thickness, minimum length, left and right padding, added arrow)
I have tried to do the same that way, but it was very unstable. Was it difficult to do it in LP?
Schneider wrote:
17 Nov 2018, 11:43
PS. [OT] I'm no violonist; may I ask you the meaning of "P" and "PE"?
It will be explained in the preface. P - I use for short version of "sul ponticello" and PE for "sul ponticello estremamente". It would take to much space, and this way it is very easy to see and to remember. It worked good in my previous pieces.
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 18 Nov 2018, 09:12

Two pages finished!
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by benwiggy » 18 Nov 2018, 09:31

I'm just wondering what the text fonts are? (scherzando and arco ord.)
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Re: Engraving in MuseScore

Post by OCTO » 18 Nov 2018, 09:37

benwiggy wrote:
18 Nov 2018, 09:31
I'm just wondering what the text fonts are? (scherzando and arco ord.)
The font is Nepomuk.
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