Braces

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Schneider
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Thank you Wess!
And yes, font is Century SchoolBook-L 'bold'.
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Thank you again, Schneider,

this version of the font is great. I just downloaded and analysed it. It would probably solve many problems with visibility of the text blocks whatsoever may be.
Times is good and too modern for my consideration.

I am tired from all this new designed fonts. The recently engraved scores (most of the) do not look elegant as the old school ones.
That is why I developed two fonts dedicated to the layout of Peters and Henle, but here is not the place to talk about this, because the subject are the piano braces.
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Last hours I am thinking over to test the "Lolly".
Do you know if there are any documentations (instructions) and can it be installed on Mac?

Thank you.

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Wess
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John Ruggero
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Pierre or Schneider (I am sorry, I am not sure which you prefer),

In your latest example, the braces, brackets, and everything else is so clean and clear; it is beautiful. Perhaps LilyPond has a different look that one must acquire as a taste. However, for me, the brackets are too far from the staves, but the brace is an excellent distance from the bracket.

Wess, I tried that Opus brace on a grand staff and it was indeed not very good.
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Dear John,

I assumed that you have right about the horizontal distance from the staff.
So, I made another attempt to create a new brace, based this time more or less on sample 6, which in my opinion looks very balanced.
Here it is.
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If you, or someone of our colleagues, is interested I could post the settings as part of Finale "piano brace designer".

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Wess
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Wess, that distance looks fine for a piano solo grand staff. Your brace is beautiful, and I am interested in your settings. Please post it! I didn't realized that you did it with Finale!
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Dear John, here is the picture of the appropriate settings:
PIANO BRACE NEW.png
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As you can see, the distance I suggest is 10 EVPU (ca. 0,4166 spaces)

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Thank you so much, Wess. I just ran into an issue with the Finale default brace of the type you illustrated with the staves of a grand staff set to 65%. This symbol is definitely not shrinkable without great distortion.
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Dear John, I lead an attempt to solve this issue and here it is.
PIANO BRACE 70% staff.png
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And now you can see how it works.
Both staves on a grand staff are close enough. Even though there are no significant distortions. However, if you go to opposite – applying huge distance between both staves, the picture will be not as pleasant as the illustrated one.
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Dear Wess, I am very sorry for the unforgivably long time in responding to your help. I just tried the smaller brace and it works beautifully through a surprisingly wide range of staff distances, which is perfect for my application. Thank you so much.
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I am glad, dear friend!

Wess
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