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Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 15 Apr 2024, 11:57
by benwiggy
NeeraWM wrote: 15 Apr 2024, 10:48I don't delve too much into why we Italians need to do things differently from everyone else.
There's also the way that names are presented backwards in Italy: "Calogero, Salvatore".

Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 15 Apr 2024, 12:20
by NeeraWM
I don't get it, both Calogero and Salvatore can be first names.
Did you want to say that we present first and last name in a non-common order?

Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 15 Apr 2024, 12:36
by benwiggy
OK: Verdi, Giuseppi.

It seems to be common in formal and administrative use.

Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 15 Apr 2024, 12:52
by NeeraWM
I guess it depends from the context. If you're looking into an encyclopedia or phone book, of course it will be last+first name.
On a book's cover, it is first+last name.
So... yes, it depends :-D

Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 16 Apr 2024, 00:59
by JJP
Is there an ISO standard for this?

Re: Page size order conventions

Posted: 16 Apr 2024, 20:27
by Harpsichordmaker
benwiggy wrote: 15 Apr 2024, 12:36 OK: Verdi, Giuseppi.

It seems to be common in formal and administrative use.
True. It’s incorrect, though (see https://accademiadellacrusca.it/it/cons ... %2520Rossi). Notwithstanding, a lot of people use that form when writing pseudo-formal documents (even private documents) - and sometimes even when speaking. I think this use is more frequent in southern Italy.