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The output was generally "ok", but I wasn't particularly impressed by the default result. He had to go through quite a few extra steps to tweak and adjust things, constantly.


I'm not a fan of many of Dorico's defaults either, but it does give you the ability to globally customize just about ...

I can't say "well this passage is in X-minor, therefore I need to use X-spelling."

I'm trying to make READING the passage as easy on the eyes as possible for the performers.


Vln. II is just C# ascending melodic minor starting on E (up to the Eb) so one option could be to use that spelling in ...

Ross is far from comprehensive. There's very little about vertical spacing and page layout. Style guides often don't cover those areas either, either than "this is what we want on a title page".


True, but there's actually a decent amount about that stuff in Ross on pages A2-A7, A28-31, etc. In ...

RMK wrote: 29 Aug 2026, 13:55 If you are interested in obtaining this out of print book, do not go to Amazon, where copies are going for up to about $300.

I've bought a lot of books on notation on AbeBooks too. It's easy to set up an alert to be notified if a title you want becomes available.

Yep, I got that one too soon after it was released!

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I honestly didn't really use it much. By that point I already had Ross, Read, Stone, and the Ken Williams book. An employer had given me a photocopy of the Schirmer style guide. I maybe had Roemer by then too. I had spent a ton of ...

OCTO wrote: 18 Aug 2026, 16:06 - "So, tell me, what is the source of your statement?"
I replied:
- "I am the source."

Having a bit of a laugh imagining you in a Samuel L. Jackson voice saying, "MF I am the source!"

Looking at Takemitsu, his scores are "in C," but he retains the octave transposition for piccolo, contrabass, glockenspiel, etc., as many other composers do. However, he uses the F clef for bass clarinet, which is a non-octave transposing instrument.
A concerto for two pianos, example:


This all ...

However, I also agree with Fred when it comes to the tenor saxophone which is a transposing instrument in Bb; if it shall have an interval number below its clef it should be a 9.


I don't want to derail things too far off the topic of the earliest use, but the following is fine and the clefs and ...

The "double G" clef is probably the earliest indicator


Abdy Williams writes about this in 1903 in The Story of Notation :

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(Keep in mind "recent times" means recent to 1903.)

Here's Richard Rastall writing in 1982:

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... and finally here's MuseScore 4 ...

It's also possible that the AI labs will fund OMR research. They're always searching for more training data, and the 800,000 scores on IMSLP represent a sizable corpus.


I'm hesitant to even speak this into existence as I effing hate them, but Suno has gobs of money and could probably get it ...