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- 19 Jul 2025, 02:59
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Piano Fingering with Fermata
- Replies: 1
- Views: 14
Re: Piano Fingering with Fermata
This is always a sticky case because both symbols want to be close to the notes. So it's done in various ways, all somewhat unsatisfactory. Yours looks funny because both symbols are too far from the note head. You might put the number closer to the top staff line to get both symbols closer. Or plac...
- 19 Jul 2025, 02:22
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Modern convention on this cello passage
- Replies: 10
- Views: 375
Re: Modern convention on this cello passage
Thanks for the great explanation, Neera!
- 18 Jul 2025, 18:29
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Re: Distance from the left bar line
Thanks, hautbois baryton. 1.25 is a nice compromise. Here is another interesting example from the same movement of Beethoven's op. 27 no. 2. This from the old plate-engraved Schirmer edition (von Bülow). Note the varying distances from the left bar line, again responding to the density of each syste...
- 18 Jul 2025, 15:47
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Re: Distance from the left bar line
Examples of the effect of distance from the left bar lines in a spacious layout. The first example is set to 1 space, the Finale default. The second to 1.25 spaces, and the third to 1.5 spaces, the fourth to 1.75, and the fifth to 2 spaces. What spacing do you prefer? 1 space.png 1.25 spaces.png 1.5...
- 18 Jul 2025, 13:18
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Re: Distance from the left bar line
Since the distance of the first note or rest from the left systemic bar line varies depending on the key signature, presence of a time signature etc., perhaps it's better to consider the gap between the first note and the last fixed item, like a clef, key signature or time signature. I am also seein...
- 17 Jul 2025, 21:38
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Re: Distance from the left bar line
Thanks, David. I have seen other examples of that clef placement and even posted about it. In this case, I think it is being done as a space-saving device, because it is not consistent.
- 17 Jul 2025, 21:13
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Re: Distance from the left bar line
Thanks, Fred G. Unn. I wasn't talking about the distance to the key signatures, but the varied distances to the left bar lines. Here are more examples from different areas of the Henle publication shown above so that the different spacing is more apparent. Note that the less dense the music, the lar...
- 17 Jul 2025, 14:21
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Distance from the left bar line
- Replies: 9
- Views: 205
Distance from the left bar line
Should the first note or rest in a measure be at fixed distance from the left barline? Consistency is a desirable quality in music engraving and is so easy to accomplish with software. But when does consistency become barren and mechanical? As a hand copyist, I placed the first note of each measure ...
- 15 Jul 2025, 14:48
- Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
- Topic: Modern convention on this cello passage
- Replies: 10
- Views: 375
Re: Modern convention on this cello passage
Thanks, czoller. Then it must be a special effect, or an avoidance of the open strings for some reason.
- 15 Jul 2025, 12:46
- Forum: News - Questions - Suggestions
- Topic: Site very slow?
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Re: Site very slow?

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