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by John Ruggero
31 Mar 2023, 12:42
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: how to show dotted rest
Replies: 48
Views: 2775

Re: how to show dotted rest

Here is the passage when it first occurs in A flat minor: op. 110.png The version in G minor, as well as being tonally lower, is even lower in mood and we see the gaps and gasps, as Anders said, in the melody (see example in previous post). Here is another example, this tine from from Beethoven's op...
by John Ruggero
31 Mar 2023, 02:44
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: how to show dotted rest
Replies: 48
Views: 2775

Re: how to show dotted rest

It's 12/16. The "triplet" marked with the slur in m. 131 is not a real triplet, but just an explanation of the notation since placing a slur over rests would have appeared to be nonsense. He is very creative in the way he uses standard notation in new ways. But never in a surprising way. I...
by John Ruggero
30 Mar 2023, 12:44
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Scordatura conventions
Replies: 18
Views: 273

Re: Scordatura conventions

Good old Local 802 AFM!

Bernstein's Mass is quite an extravaganza with various bands and choral groups on and off the stage. I guess you might have been playing alto sax in the stage orchestra. I just checked the instrumentation at Boosey.
by John Ruggero
30 Mar 2023, 12:10
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Scordatura conventions
Replies: 18
Views: 273

Re: Scordatura conventions

Sorry, I misread the Gould, MalteM. As you said, she recommends a cue staff above for scores, and suggests placing the alternate "sounding" version on the opposite page for parts. That would also have implications for page turns, and perhaps worse ones, so I think a cue staff is a better o...
by John Ruggero
29 Mar 2023, 19:39
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Scordatura conventions
Replies: 18
Views: 273

Re: Scordatura conventions

I just consulted Gould on the subject of scordatura. She suggests printing the music as it sounds on a cue staff above the other version. This might have page-turn implications, however.
by John Ruggero
29 Mar 2023, 15:00
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: how to show dotted rest
Replies: 48
Views: 2775

Re: how to show dotted rest

Here is an interesting example of 12/16 with rests in Beethoven's piano sonata op. 110. Note that he avoids consolidating initial 16th rests throughout. And when this threatens to create a little "rest forest" at the end of the first system, he brackets the final "triplet" "...
by John Ruggero
28 Mar 2023, 13:22
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: how to show dotted rest
Replies: 48
Views: 2775

Re: how to show dotted rest

Anders Hedelin wrote: 27 Mar 2023, 08:57
But, syncopated rests, or extended beams in Bach's music? Not for me, thank you.
Amen. As little tampering with the notation of eminent composers as possible. Once the tampering and the resulting distortion starts, there is no end to it.
by John Ruggero
27 Mar 2023, 15:44
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Scordatura conventions
Replies: 18
Views: 273

Re: Scordatura conventions

Actually, as understood it at the time, there were several divisions: 1. Copyists, who worked mostly by eye on transparent music paper. We used only a pen and ink and a ruler, somewhat like Euclid; also an electric eraser and occasionally, a flexible curve. 2. Autographers, who worked on a drawing b...
by John Ruggero
26 Mar 2023, 16:56
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: how to show dotted rest
Replies: 48
Views: 2775

Re: how to show dotted rest

Poor musicians, when they are to make themselves accustomed to Tom Dick and Harry's individual notations! What happened to the belief in traditional notation? It may not be more right in itself, academically, but it certainly makes reading music easier, and safer, because it's more familiar - if we...
by John Ruggero
26 Mar 2023, 16:50
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Scordatura conventions
Replies: 18
Views: 273

Re: Scordatura conventions

You are very welcome, Neera. The following article will tell you all about Arnold Arnstein. I was his assistant and copyist for about 6 years during the 1970s. He had just finished Barber's Anthony and Cleopatra and Piano Concerto when I came on board, and we did Bernstein's Mass among many other wo...