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by John Ruggero
12 Jun 2024, 12:02
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Diminuendo hairpin or accent
Replies: 8
Views: 293

Re: Diminuendo hairpin or accent

That's a very good point, Anders. Perhaps we still react somewhat differently hairpins vs written cresc. and dim. At least it is the way I would react to what you described.
by John Ruggero
08 Jun 2024, 22:13
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition
Replies: 15
Views: 417

Re: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition

I agree that the engraving of this measure in the first edition is not attractive; but, in my opinion, Bach's meaning here must be upheld at all costs, particularly because the centered beam in the previous measure that shows the same phrasing is impossible to preserve. My version: Goldberg Var 1.pn...
by John Ruggero
08 Jun 2024, 12:17
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition
Replies: 15
Views: 417

Re: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition

Regarding editorial clef changes: they can be done well and in tune with the composer's thinking, or badly and distort the musical picture. Here is an example that I found in about a minute in Bach's Goldberg Variations. Fine composers try to place their clef changes in musically logical places, oft...
by John Ruggero
08 Jun 2024, 11:33
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition
Replies: 15
Views: 417

Re: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition

To clarify, Harpsichordmaker said: "There is a lot of other things editors add or modify without telling..." It was the "without telling" part that I was commenting on.
by John Ruggero
07 Jun 2024, 22:56
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Diminuendo hairpin or accent
Replies: 8
Views: 293

Re: Diminuendo hairpin or accent

I a glad that that was helpful, Neera. It sounds like you are on the right track. While perhaps related to the performance strategy you mentioned, this would be a true subito effect that happens the instant the hairpin begins, which is what makes the small diminuendo hairpin correspond to our presen...
by John Ruggero
07 Jun 2024, 22:44
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition
Replies: 15
Views: 417

Re: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition

I agree that everything is relative and everything should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But I do think that an editor should be transparent about changes, particularly in critical editions. I've seen a lot of what I consider to be very bad editorial decisions of this type in otherwise praise...
by John Ruggero
07 Jun 2024, 12:06
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition
Replies: 15
Views: 417

Re: Treatment of cautionary accidentals in modern critical edition

Harpsichordmaker wrote: 07 Jun 2024, 09:05 There is a lot of other things editors add or modify without telling: beaming; ties over a barline (very often the composers only put an augmentation dot just after the barline); clefs; etc.
Unfortunately, too true.
by John Ruggero
07 Jun 2024, 12:02
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Diminuendo hairpin or accent
Replies: 8
Views: 293

Re: Diminuendo hairpin or accent

I have seen it in the music of some composers of the first half of the 19th century but would have to see the entire piece to decide whether your composer was adhering to the practice or he/she and/or the engraver was just sloppy. For example, it is unclear if the diminuendo hairpin in the piano par...
by John Ruggero
06 Jun 2024, 13:08
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Diminuendo hairpin or accent
Replies: 8
Views: 293

Re: Diminuendo hairpin or accent

Composers of this period seem to have used dim. and cresc. in the same way that we do today, that is, start the dynamic change at the preceding dynamic level. Hairpins, however, often meant a subito drop (for a cresc. hairpin) or a subito rise (for a diminuendo hairpin) where the hairpin starts. So ...
by John Ruggero
19 May 2024, 03:15
Forum: Manual Notation
Topic: Buying a plate
Replies: 11
Views: 1870

Re: Buying a plate

Yes, their system us confusing in either case. I prefer the style that places such bar numbers at the beginning of the first complete measure in the system.