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by John Ruggero
07 Mar 2024, 16:25
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Thanks, Neera. Unusual ;) As you said, it supports the idea that the repeat mark is not a bar line, but it's not standard and might need an explanation in a footnote.
by John Ruggero
06 Mar 2024, 17:04
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Lyrics: to uppercase or not to uppercase?
Replies: 4
Views: 190

Re: Lyrics: to uppercase or not to uppercase?

In looking through a little of the German lieder repertoire, I see both systems being used. If one were not capitalizing initial words, supplying the poem in its original layout might be a good idea.
by John Ruggero
06 Mar 2024, 17:00
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Neera, could you show some examples? I'm not sure what you mean.
by John Ruggero
05 Mar 2024, 21:45
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Thanks for confirming that, David and Neera. Yes, since a repeat mark can be placed in the middle of a measure, it is clearly not a bar line per se. Neera, your point is also very interesting. When a repeat mark coincides with a double bar line, the double bar line may have an extra meaning that cou...
by John Ruggero
05 Mar 2024, 18:50
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

No problem. (Do people still say that?) Neera, have you ever seen the Gould-Dorico style (as described above) in fine editions? I would love to know where this came from. In thinking about it further I am wondering if it comes from a misunderstanding of the point I made above. A repeat mark replaces...
by John Ruggero
05 Mar 2024, 17:08
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Another Beethoven centered beam
Replies: 11
Views: 341

Another Beethoven centered beam

This one comes from the first movement of the Sonata op. 28: Beethoven op 28.1 MS.png In this case, Beethoven uses the centered beam to preserve normal stem direction for the three notes involved. But not to obey "the rules". He does it because he wants the stem direction to stay the same ...
by John Ruggero
05 Mar 2024, 16:57
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

That may be, Neera, but the subject of the thread is putting a clef change after a double repeat that occurs in the middle of a staff.
by John Ruggero
05 Mar 2024, 03:44
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Hi, FredGUnn. We meet again. :) Yes, I just gave several examples in the posts above of mid-measure double repeat signs and how the clef falls after the repeat mark. Imagine how bad those would look if the Gould-Dorico system were applied. The way I understand it is: A repeat mark substitutes for a ...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 23:32
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 361

Re: Placement of tuplets

Yes, the single-note in the measure issue. Thanks for bringing that one up. Then there is the bad position of the stem-side two-note slur. If I had a dollar for each one of those... I agree completely that tuplet brackets are necessary in complex contemporary music. However, I also think that they a...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 22:29
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 469

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Thanks, Shinohara Hoshi. This just came up again over at the Dorico forum, so I thought I should post here because I don't think that it's been discussed here. I am interested in knowing whether Gould based this rule on a tradition that I've never encountered. But it is clear that software should be...