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by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 19:10
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 361

Re: Placement of tuplets

Here is an example of how music customs do not always improve. The first example is from the first movement of the first edition of Beethoven's Sonata op. 31 no. 1. One sees he dramatic peaks and valleys of the music as if it were mountain range: Beethoven op 31 no 1 Naegeli .png This wonderful pict...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 18:37
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 361

Re: Placement of tuplets

I agree that music notation "customs" change with time, Shinohara Hoshi. Sometimes for the better, and sometimes for the worse. The great power of personal computers makes it possible for knowledgable individuals to pick and choose what they think are the best solutions from the past and p...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 17:05
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 468

Re: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

Here are a couple more:
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by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 17:02
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule
Replies: 16
Views: 468

Gould's Repeat Mark-Clef Rule

On page 234 of Gould's Behind Bars , we encounter the following rule: Gould rule.png Application of this rule leads to the following result as shown in an example I engraved in Dorico. The clef change is placed outside of the repeat mark! This is the only way Dorico can handle this situation automat...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 15:39
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 361

Re: Placement of tuplets

You are very welcome, Anders. I still wonder why it has become such a hard rule - at least in some quarters. Hard and fast rules do make things "easier." Many aspects of music notation were nuanced in earlier times. I see a lot of sensitivity to musical values being expressed in earlier no...
by John Ruggero
04 Mar 2024, 14:29
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Placement of tuplets
Replies: 12
Views: 361

Re: Placement of tuplets

I am very glad you brought up this topic, Anders. In the 18th and 19th centuries tuplet numbers were placed (whenever possible) on the note head side . Slurs and articulations as well. Reason: they are more visible there since our visual attention is aimed at the note heads, rather than the stems an...
by John Ruggero
03 Mar 2024, 02:57
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Alignment of lyric hyphens
Replies: 4
Views: 166

Re: Alignment of lyric hyphens

I do think that it looks odd and should be corrected. I've had similar situations with simultaneous continuation dashed lines for dynamics and tempo indications and was only able to correct them in Finale by using two dashed Smart Lines with the proper distance between the dashes.
by John Ruggero
02 Mar 2024, 03:10
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Italic/oblique flat and sharp glyphs?
Replies: 4
Views: 199

Re: Italic/oblique flat and sharp glyphs?

I vote Quirky. For me, the sharp, flat and natural symbols lose their essential character if not upright. But then I don't like treble clefs that lean forward either...
by John Ruggero
14 Feb 2024, 12:20
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Fermata question
Replies: 6
Views: 682

Re: Fermata question

Looks good to me. And Arnstein probably would have put the col canto vocal part in the other parts as a cue.
by John Ruggero
13 Feb 2024, 20:53
Forum: Notation Rules and Standards
Topic: Fermata question
Replies: 6
Views: 682

Re: Fermata question

Two quarter rests seems clearer to me. I'm pretty sure Arnstein would have done it that way since he wanted exact correspondence of fermatas between all the parts including within cues.