Finale fonts available for download

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benwiggy
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Finale fonts available for download

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MM have provided installers for their new fonts, which are available to download here:

https://makemusic.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ ... nformation

Bear in mind that the installer will also install all the legacy Finale fonts, of which there are a LOT. These have not been updated, and so should be identical to the ones you already have. (Although there were some OTF versions released a while ago of Engraver fonts, and some others.)

But if you don't have Finale, you may not want these.

It will also install JSON files for the Text fonts, even though these Text fonts are just text fonts, and not "music text" fonts like Bravura Text. If you keep the JSON files, then things like Finale Jazz Text will show up as a Music font in Dorico’s Music Font dialog. But it’s not a music font.

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This is great.

Now the fun will begin deciding what default output is Finale or Dorico. This should be a fun test.
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Yes, I think there's an interesting test to be made here. (Though of course it could have previously been done in Sebastian or November2.)

Finale's defaults are pretty risible, I think it's universally agreed. Dorico's defaults are much more satisfactory, even if not optimal.

There are still things that will give it away.

But the real question is 'what do we want to test?' We know what Finale can achieve if you put the work in, and we know what it does if you don't. Similarly, we know what Dorico does by default, and we know what you can do beyond that.

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benwiggy wrote:
19 Jul 2021, 11:30
Yes, I think there's an interesting test to be made here.
...
But the real question is 'what do we want to test?'
I'm up to play if you have a piece you'd like to use as a test.

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Again, it depends what we want to test. Here's a PDF I did in Finale a while ago, so "Maestro", not SMuFL Maestro; and the imported XML in Dorico, with Finale Maestro font. Neither are the default app's options, and I've done a bit of work on both of them.

I've labelled them with the apps, because it's obvious. (I did the Finale file on B5 for some reason.)

Lots of problems in the organ part: The slur doesn't accommodate the accidental in 23; there's clashing in bar 38; there's not enough space for the hairpins; the double flat in 82 doesn't 'nest' well under the single flat. Yes, I could have aligned the p < f dynamics on page 5 in Finale, but I didn't get round to it. Most of my time was spent manually adjusting the noteheads in bottom of p6 / top of 7.

What this really reveals is my lack of patience before I go "that'll do"! :oops: It shows what I didn't do in Finale, and what I didn't have to do in Dorico. (It was the comparison of this very piece that made me switch.)

Also included is a 'straight' XML import to Finale 27, to get the SMuFL Finale Maestro. As you can see, there's loads of clashing that needs to be manually restored. This is with factory defaults.
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One difference between the programs is that Finale draws the piano brace from curves, whereas Dorico uses font glyphs (of varying sizes for different lengths). In Finale, you can set the parameters of the brace shape; in Dorico, you can replace the glyphs with those from another font, or from a vector graphic.

Conversely, the system bracket 'wings' in Dorico are also defined in the font, and can be replaced by those from another font, or from an imported graphic. Finale doesn't have a way to adjust the wings.

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