[OT] English terminology

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[OT] English terminology

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Hello. If anyone is free to check this against grammatical errors and proper English, I would be more than thankful.
Note on Performance:
The high accuracy in execution of the short values and grace notes, particularly in the chromatic motion, is expected for each singer but not required in tutti herewith giving an improvisatory result of the eastern religious chant. However, the pivot notes – of long and accented values – should be as precise as possible. The singers should refrain from “operatic” singing and perform with a simple and humble voice.
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It's not strictly idiomatic, but it's easy to understand.

I can have a go at this either tomorrow or the next day if you like and if you don't mind its losing your personal stamp (ie does it necessarily HAVE to be idiomatic as if written by a native speaker of English?).
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David Ward wrote: 07 Sep 2021, 21:26(ie does it necessarily HAVE to be idiomatic as if written by a native speaker of English?).
Indeed! :)
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Maybe it is not directly question for "notation" but once, long time ago, I have got help from a native English speaker that corrected my text so that grace notes become "elegance tones", to chant into "cantillate" and register into "chronicle". I didn't need a poetic language, but the most correct music terminology. :)
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Accurate execution is expected (*) for short notes, particularly in chromatic passages, but is not required in tutti sections, which should have an improvised feel, similar to Eastern (*) religious chant. However, the pivot notes -- with long and accented values -- should be as precise as possible. The singers should refrain from “operatic” singing and perform with a simple and humble voice.

(*) Not sure what the distinction is between 'each singer' and 'tutti'. Do you mean soloists? Are there no short values in the tutti?
(*) Do you mean "Orthodox", or something else?
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benwiggy wrote: 08 Sep 2021, 11:06 (*) Not sure what the distinction is between 'each singer' and 'tutti'. Do you mean soloists? Are there no short values in the tutti?
(*) Do you mean "Orthodox", or something else?
Thank you, benwiggy!

With "each singer" I mean individually, each of them separately for them selves... Hm, how to clarify?
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Might be better re-phrased in the active voice, instead of the passive:

Each singer is expected to perform short notes accurately.... but the tutti sections should have an improvised feel, etc.
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"to perform the short notes"?
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benwiggy wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 08:27 Might be better re-phrased in the active voice, instead of the passive:

Each singer is expected to perform short notes accurately.... but the tutti sections should have an improvised feel, etc.
I agree.
John Ruggero wrote: 09 Sep 2021, 12:48 "to perform the short notes"?
I agree with that too.
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I don't think the definite article is absolutely necessary "the short notes". performing "short notes" is equally idiomatic if you are referring to short notes that are throughout the score. if you are referencing a very specific passage of short notes, then yes, the article would be more appropriate.

so "throughout the score shorts notes should be performed..."
but "at measure 75 the short notes should be performed..."

maybe in Canada our approach to English is slightly different.


By the way, the use of "herewith" is quite archaic. I would heartily suggest avoiding the term.
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