pre-Reviewing Dorico

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OCTO
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Re: pre-Reviewing Dorico

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10. Any object attached to the note that respects spacing
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Florian
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Re: pre-Reviewing Dorico

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I'm afraid I don't have the time now to give a precise answer to each of your questions. Here's a rather general comment.

While a few of these things are certainly possible, and some (single trill notes, stacked grace notes, independent meters, big time signatures, powerful tuplets) are even implemented already, you'll likely feel like you're banging your head against the wall with much of what you need. Most importantly there's no tool yet to create arbitrary lines and boxes etc. so you'll need to use workarounds or even post-process your files in an external graphics program. You can achieve quite a few things with the music symbols editor.

Nevertheless I do recommend that you go ahead and try Dorico – you may be able to use it for some of your less complicated scores and get used to its concepts (and start enjoying them) along the way. I don't doubt that all of this will be possible in the future in comfortable, elegant ways.

I'm sure someone else will jump in and give specific answers. Why don't you post these questions on the Dorico user forum as well? You'll certainly get friendly, competent and enthusiastic answers there!

OCTO
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Re: pre-Reviewing Dorico

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Thank you Florian!
While it could be indeed great to "play" with Dorico on this stage, I just need a tool to execute my needs in a most easy way. Another important thing here is that my scores are usually done partly or for the most part by other engravers, so that could be really messy if things are not implemented and many workarounds were done for the same thing.
I have one score done in Sibelius about 20 years ago, it is not possible to edit that score today without getting a total collapse of the music.
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benwiggy
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Re: pre-Reviewing Dorico

Post by benwiggy »

OCTO wrote:
26 Apr 2019, 12:36
So, I would like to know if some or all features are possible in Dorico or not. If it is somewhat easier to do, or it is at all possible.
As of Dorico v3.1, I'll address the things that can be done.

3. Boxes have to be made using a Text object (which could contain visible or invisible chars), and setting a border to it. You can adjust the size of the border, and then position the box. The box is beat-attached. This is a 'workaround' and better functionality is expected.

4. Independent rhythm: It's very easy to use tuplets to increase or decrease the 'actual' number of notes in a bar. You can also 'fake' the actual time signature, or have a different time in one staff.

6. You can position any lines by hand; and there are also a range of automatic 'snapping' positions, such as to the barline, to the notehead, or to the beat position.

7. See 3.

8. Time sigs: These are your Layout options for Time sigs. "System object" positions means above the top staff and any instrument groups that you select.
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You can also choose the style of denominator easily enough.
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And there are a range of styles for interchangeable (alternating) meters. You could add the beat markings easily enough as text.

9. Yes, barlines can be added individually to any staff.

10. Generally, every object respects spacing! The tricky bit is creating a custom note-attached object that sits to the left or right of the note. Currently, Playing Techniques are the main note-attached objects: they sit above or below the note and cannot be moved horizontally. However, there are some 'workarounds' for side-attached objects.

The Line tool is excellent, but has no custom lines yet. Boxes for aleatoric-style notation are still missing. You might like to post on the Dorico forum and submit your usages as things you need from the program.

For the music that I produce, Dorico is now largely "notation-complete". But I'd like to see improvements in things like Staff hiding; editable Clefs and Instruments; and other features that bring greater flexibility and control to the user.

Work is underway on Dorico 4, which will be released later in the year: I have no doubt that we will see amazing improvements.

benwiggy
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Re: pre-Reviewing Dorico

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2. Custom Lines can now be created with Dorico 3.5's Line Editors.

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