[ANN] Ten Music Notation Programs, second edition

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Re: [ANN] Ten Music Notation Programs, second edition

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You are welcome, FredGUnn. Sorry, I meant the first rests in m. 2 and 3 seemed high to me. The second rests in those measure are fine. I think that keeping the rests aligned within a measure is less important than other factors. Thus, the following also stand out to me:

m. 7 eighth rest seems low, dotted quarter is questionable. I'd have to see it both ways.
m. 11 the dotted quarter rest looks high
m. 12 both rests on the second half of the measure look high
m. 14, 22, 27 the dotted quarter rest might be lower. Might be a matter of taste.
m. 20 second eighth rest looks high

I try to get as close as I can with the arpeggio signs given the constraints with the squiggles. I also like them shorter rather than longer.
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Re: [ANN] Ten Music Notation Programs, second edition

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All those seem fair. I was trying to keep them aligned per voice across the bar, as a 6/8 bar isn't that long, but Gould says they only need to be aligned within a beat, so you're probably right.
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Re: [ANN] Ten Music Notation Programs, second edition

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Fred G. Unn wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 19:07 FWIW, I guess I would do it like this:

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I don't see much point in keeping the archaic repeat convention ("et poi la Coda") so I just used the modern one. Horizontal spacing and all beams and ties are my default settings and are unedited.
I am not sure why this music was chosen to represent various notation principles in comparison. Just the first system of this music is enough, and not needed to be "repetitive" throughout the page.

Maybe we can "compose" a piece that would include many different aspects of notation, or use one that has more potential.
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Re: [ANN] Ten Music Notation Programs, second edition

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OCTO wrote: 05 Mar 2023, 14:56 I am not sure why this music was chosen to represent various notation principles in comparison. Just the first system of this music is enough, and not needed to be "repetitive" throughout the page.

Maybe we can "compose" a piece that would include many different aspects of notation, or use one that has more potential.
That's a great idea! While I think there is some usefulness in seeing how different programs handle the overall look of a more traditional piece, I would definitely love to see a comparison of something much more challenging for the engraver using many different techniques. I would certainly play along and submit a version.
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Fine idea, and anyone's welcome to do the compiling and organizing, and use my intro from the current version if you like. Fred's point is well-taken that while the current version was intended as more of presentation of a complete page, it would be great to see comparisons of more challenging notation.
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Since so much relies on the engraver and on the fonts used, in a way, we already have a super comparison tool at:

https://elbsound.studio/music-font-comparison.php
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