Sebastian SMuFL font

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Sebastian SMuFL font

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OK, I think I've brought this font to some kind of working order. There are now 828 glyphs, so enough to cope with a range of music.

I'd say the essential character of the font is for clear numerals and alphabet-based symbols: dynamics, C, etc. It's not as heavy as Bravura, but not as washed out as some of the early computer fonts.

Let me know what you think.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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Installed but it doesn't work for me. I only get squares not notation at all.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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Works here. What platform are you on? Have you restarted Dorico? You may even have to restart on Windows, I believe.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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Ben, I am on macOS Big Sur 11.1 (20C69)
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By the way you made a great job making the font work for Dorico!!! BRAVO... I will reboot my MacBook Pro.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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I rebooted my MacBook Pro, still your Sebastian font doesn't work with Dorico 3.5, I get squares again. not sure what's wrong.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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And the font is installed in your system? Does it show in other apps? (The font is Finale-compatible, too.)

I've reinstalled it here, and it seems fine. You may need to clear your font cache.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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Nice job, Ben! Even starting with a font that has a bunch of symbols, creating enough to add up to 800+ is a big task!
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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I like more Sebastian than Bravura, actually. Well done.

Questions:
- have you edited the natural symbol? It seems a bit vertically compressed/emboldened in comparison to the sharp, so that the angle is not the same, and the stems are bolder. Nothing "wrong" in it, just I don't feel comfortable. Also both are not equally centered:
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- also the half-notehead reminds me too much Petrucci. Is it possible to use another variant found in Sebastian, such as it is on "F" (on the left)?
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- as a matter of taste as well, I would compress the double flat, and remove the emboldened upper stem:
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- Perhaps this version of the flat symbol, the stem is slowly emboldened toward the top:
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The flags are wonderful, and nicely positioned.
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Re: Sebastian SMuFL font

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OCTO wrote: 27 Jan 2021, 11:43 Questions:
- have you edited the natural symbol? It seems a bit vertically compressed/emboldened in comparison to the sharp, so that the angle is not the same, and the stems are bolder. Nothing "wrong" in it, just I don't feel comfortable. Also both are not equally centered:
No: I edited the sharp! I made the crossbars a little thicker and more angled. I can see that the natural should match.
OCTO wrote: 27 Jan 2021, 11:43 Questions:
- also the half-notehead reminds me too much Petrucci. Is it possible to use another variant found in Sebastian, such as it is on "F" (on the left)?
Yes, the half still needs some thought.
OCTO wrote: 27 Jan 2021, 11:43 - as a matter of taste as well, I would compress the double flat, and remove the emboldened upper stem:
Yes. I didn't touch that, but it does need some attention.
OCTO wrote: 27 Jan 2021, 11:43 - Perhaps this version of the flat symbol, the stem is slowly emboldened toward the top:
I was talking to Florian this morning about this!
OCTO wrote: 27 Jan 2021, 11:43 The flags are wonderful, and nicely positioned.
Thank you. The flags and rests are probably the bit I did the most 'artistic' work on.
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