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Re: scordatura
Posted: 04 Sep 2026, 12:58
by Magnus Johansson
Thanks again, Dirck, for your examples. There seems to be different scordatura notation practices for bowed string instruments and guitar. Should not the circled 1 in the "Lento, lontano" piece equal d¹ instead of d?
Re: scordatura
Posted: 04 Sep 2026, 13:03
by dircknagy
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 12:58...Should not the circled 1 in the "Lento, lontano" piece equal d¹ instead of d?
Yes, it probably should. I think the circled strings are redundant anyway, since the ambitus gives all the information needed.
Re: scordatura
Posted: 04 Sep 2026, 13:06
by Magnus Johansson
dircknagy wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 11:55
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 05:40
With "bass extension", do you mean making the fourth string on contrabasses reach down to C1?
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yes
OK, I believe it is not necessary to specify that extension. Let's hear what the string players here on Notatio say.
Re: scordatura
Posted: 04 Sep 2026, 13:15
by dircknagy
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 12:58
...There seems to be different scordatura notation practices for bowed string instruments and guitar. ...
That is interesting...i didnt know what was standard.
My original questions still remain: "How to treat scordatura in a conductor's score?"
I'm not much of a conductor, but I think I'd rather see sounding pitches in the score. If the tuning was really weird, would an ossia staff be used? One staff mirroring the bowed string part, and the other sounding pitches?
Re: scordatura
Posted: 04 Sep 2026, 14:33
by Magnus Johansson
dircknagy wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 13:15
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 12:58
...There seems to be different scordatura notation practices for bowed string instruments and guitar. ...
That is interesting...i didnt know what was standard.
My original questions still remain: "How to treat scordatura in a conductor's score?"
I'm not much of a conductor, but I think I'd rather see sounding pitches in the score. If the tuning was really weird, would an ossia staff be used? One staff mirroring the bowed string part, and the other sounding pitches?
I would treat it like in the Mahler example i.e. as a transposing instrument ("a violin in D" in that case) with a small stave with the tuning specified. I would not use an ossia stave.
Re: scordatura
Posted: 05 Sep 2026, 19:14
by dircknagy
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 14:33...
I would treat it like in the Mahler example i.e. as a transposing instrument ("a violin in D" in that case) with a small stave with the tuning specified. I would not use an ossia stave.
THanks!
dirck
Re: scordatura
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 08:01
by Magnus Johansson
dircknagy wrote: 05 Sep 2026, 19:14
Magnus Johansson wrote: 04 Sep 2026, 14:33...
I would treat it like in the Mahler example i.e. as a transposing instrument ("a violin in D" in that case) with a small stave with the tuning specified. I would not use an ossia stave.
THanks!
dirck
You're welcome! May I see a screenshot of the section in question of the score when it is ready?
Re: scordatura
Posted: 06 Sep 2026, 15:18
by dircknagy
Magnus Johansson wrote: 06 Sep 2026, 08:01
You're welcome! May I see a screenshot of the section in question of the score when it is ready?
Of course!