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Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 27 Nov 2021, 17:47
by benwiggy
I have lots of works with one trumpet, one oboe, plus strings. How, if at all, would you bracket the top two instruments? Together? Individual brackets? Or as is?
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Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 27 Nov 2021, 20:47
by Anders Hedelin
The winds having no brackets looks fine to me. One of them is brass, the other woodwind, so they don't really belong together. Is there a reason for putting the brass instrument on top of the woodwind one? The other way round would seem more traditional.

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 27 Nov 2021, 22:38
by benwiggy
That's how it always scored in the manuscripts.

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 28 Nov 2021, 16:34
by Anders Hedelin
Recent manuscripts, or old, which may have a bearing on the score order being more or less standardised? (Difficult to tell from your excerpt,) Solo winds in a concerto? (Which may account for putting the more prominent one on top of the other.)

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 29 Nov 2021, 15:28
by John Ruggero
It may be Baroque. Bach and Handel also placed the brass at the top in their MS. I just checked a few at IMSLP.

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 30 Nov 2021, 17:23
by benwiggy
Yes, it's a fairly common baroque ordering. Perhaps because the oboes often doubled the strings.

You wouldn't give each staff an individual bracket? They just look a bit bare!

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 12:44
by John Ruggero
Looks OK to me without the bracket, but I see that the New Bach Edition brackets the various solo instruments together in the Brandenburg Concerto no. 2 for example.

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 19:15
by OCTO
It looks good without brackets to me as well. The grouping is today standardised by the instrumental groups, saying "in general".

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 01 Dec 2021, 20:51
by Anders Hedelin
To sum this up: If you are working for a scholarly edition, take care that you come as close as possible or practicable to the practice of the time when the music was written. If not, use your own common sense.

Re: Brackets for individual staves

Posted: 02 Dec 2021, 07:54
by benwiggy
Anders Hedelin wrote: 01 Dec 2021, 20:51 use your own common sense.
That's like when your mum tells you to 'just be yourself'. :lol: